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Answers to Easy Questions (Why Oh Why Can’t We Have a Better Press Corps New York Times Pitiful Embarrassment Department) (Brad DeLong)

Note: I am against torture. We don’t need to torture inmates or detainees to get information out of them. We don’t even need to touch them. The only reason cops do the tough talking and telephone books slapping stuff is because, by law, they only have a forty-eight hour window, so they have to get down to business with the interrogation and make use of every avenue they’ve got to get to the answers, which can be a tough job. Military personnel detaining war criminals, on the other hand, have got all the time they need. If you want someone to talk, you can be as sweet as a honeybee’s – uhm, honey. If you don’t feed the guy (or gal), he/she will tell you anything you want to know (and more). Therefore, there is no need to lay a finger on a detainee for any reason. The verdict on the torture issue is settled: case closed.

 

DeLong’s Blog Post: Marty Lederman asks:
Marty Lederman: Today’s New York Times story about the arraignment of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed concludes with this sentence: “C.I.A. officials have said that Mr. Mohammed was one of three detainees who were subjected to the simulated-drowning technique known as waterboarding during interrogation, which is described by some as torture.” If the Attorney General insisted that the sun rises in the west, would the New York Times treat it as a contested question?
Answer: Yes.
The New York Times death spiral continues.

Typical Black-on-White Crime

I doubt if many of you have the stomach for this. I’ve seen it in another iteration before, but I chose not to post it because it’s just so gruesome. But while I’m on a roll talking about black gangsters all over the world, including one running for POTUS, I might as well introduce these characters on trial today.

 

The five people pictured below
 car-jacked, then raped
Christopher Newsom , cut off his penis, then set him
on fire and fatally shot him while they forced his
girlfriend, Channon Christian, to watch.   
An even more cruel fate awaited her!

Channon Christian, was beaten and gang-raped in
many ways for four days by all of them, while they
took turns urinating on her.    Then they cut off
her breast and put chemicals in her mouth ..
and then murdered her.

Knoxville (WVLT) –
The District Attorney General of Knox County
announced the list of charges facing now five
suspects in the double murder of Channon Christian
and Christopher Newsom .

The District Attorney General Randy Nichols is not
saying whether or not he will seek the death penalty,
but he does say the State will seek conviction for
all charges filed in a 24-page indictment from
the Knox County Grand Jury.

Lemaricus Davidson, 25, faces a total of 46 charges.  
Davidson was indicted on 16 counts of Felony Murder
growing out of rape, robbery and kidnapping of
Channon Christian and Chris Newsom,
2 counts premeditated murder of Christian and Newsom,
2 counts especially aggravated assault,
4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping,
and 20 counts aggravated rape.
Letalvis Cobbins and George Thomas, both 24,
face a total of 46 charges each.  
Cobbins and Thomas were indicted on 16 counts
of Felony Murder growing out of rape,
robbery and kidnapping of Channon Christian
and Chris Newsom , 2 counts premeditated murder
of Christian and Newsom, 2 counts especially
aggravated robberies, 4 counts especially
aggravated kidnapping, 20 counts aggravated rape,
and 2 counts of theft.

Additionally, police in Lebanon , Kentucky ,
arrested 18-year-old Vanessa Coleman.   
She faces 40 Tennessee state charges.
Coleman was indicted on 12 counts Felony Murder
growing out of rape, robbery and kidnapping of
Channon Christian and Chris Newsom,
1 count Premeditated Murder,
1 count Especially Aggravated Robbery,
4 counts especially aggravated kidnapping,
20 counts of aggravated rape and 2 Counts of theft.

Eric Boyd, 24, also arrested in connection
with the fatal carjacking, only faces federal
charges as an accessory after the fact.   
He was not indicted by Knox county grand jury.

Felony Murder carries a possibility of death,
life without the possibility of parole and life with parole.  
Especially Aggravated Robbery is a Class A felony
that carries a possibility of 15 to 60 years in prison.   
Aggravated Rape is a Class A felony that carries
a possibility of 15 to 60 years of prison.

At a news conference last  year, 
District Attorney Nichols commended the cooperative
efforts between several departments and credits that
cooperation for the fast pace this case is moving
through the court system.

This is certainly a case garnering a lot of public interest,
Nichols recognizes that and says he expects all kinds
of requests filed in this case, including a change of
venue in order to receive a fair trial.   
But he says he does hope 12 Knox County jurors will
be able to determine the guilt or innocence
of these suspects.

Where be the Revs Al and Jesse?  
Are they providing counsel and help to the families
of the victims?  Of course not – the victims were white.

Why hasn’t this received National coverage by the
news media like the Duke ‘rape’ case?  
Oh, that’s right – the victims were white.

Why hasn’t the NAACP, ACLU, New York Times,
etc., called for an investigation?  
Must be ’cause the victims were white.

Why hasn’t the FBI been called in to investigate
this as a hate crime?   
 
Oh, that’s right – the victims were white.
 
victims

 

 

 

 

 

 

culprits


So, if a white news radio jock uses the phrase
‘Nappy headed hos’, it gets 2 weeks of constant news
coverage and he loses his job. 
If two white people are tortured, raped and murdered
by a group of black people, it barely gets a blip in the news:

Pass this around, and maybe, just maybe,
it will land in the hands of someone in the media or politics,
who has the balls to stand up and be counted!!!

This sounded so unreal that it was checked on Snopes.
 
 
http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp

 

Lifesaving Leeway

By INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, April 28, 2008 4:20 PM PT

War On Terror: The White House again confirms that homeland protection is its top priority. The Justice Department has told Congress it’s reasonable to conclude that tough interrogation is legal when it stops terrorism.


Read More: Global War On Terror


 

Nearly six decades have passed since the Third Geneva Convention, governing the treatment of prisoners of war, was adopted. Its language is that of the lofty, well-intentioned idealism of the post-World War II years that also brought us the establishment of the United Nations, NATO and the state of Israel.

The success of those endeavors has, of course, been mixed. The U.N. is a corrupt black hole of fiscal waste and international ineptitude. NATO, on the other hand, won the Cold War. Israel is the only firmly established representative government in the Middle East, though it has not yet provided the long-suffering Jewish people with the kind of peaceful homeland for which they yearn.

Read with 21st-century eyes, there is an unmistakable naivete to the language of Geneva.

“Prisoners of war must at all times be humanely treated . . . protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity.” The agreement insists that “no physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion, may be inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them information,” and those who refuse to answer can’t be “threatened, insulted or exposed to unpleasant or disadvantageous treatment of any kind.”

In the context of the global war on terror, endorsing a to-the-letter interpretation of Geneva’s language — which is undeniably vague and lacking in specifics — would be suicidal for the U.S. Keeping high-ranking terrorists who have information we can use to save hundreds, or thousands, of lives in custody and not taking steps to extract that knowledge would be a crime against Americans.

Beyond that, it would signal to the free world’s adversaries that we are not serious about fighting back — which would serve to embolden them and boost their recruitment efforts around the globe.

So while anti-war Democrats in Congress consider it shocking and damning that the Bush Justice Department would look for wiggle room in Geneva, those who see this world war with any realism understand its position as perfectly rational and honorable.

“The fact that an act is undertaken to prevent a threatened terrorist attack, rather than for the purpose of humiliation or abuse, would be relevant to a reasonable observer in measuring the outrageousness of the act,” Deputy Assistant Attorney General Brian Benczkowski wrote to Congress.

Citing chapter and verse from the Geneva Convention over the ashes of a U.S. city will be of no solace to the dead or their loved ones.